Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

SignUp Now!

Game Thread [2019-20] #6 Duke at NC State

Outcome?


  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .

DurhamSon

Legend
Joined
Oct 8, 2012
Messages
24,460
5a56d7ca5504b.image.jpg


Duke (12-2) vs. NC State (7-7)
AdjEff
: #2 (#8/#6) vs. #60 (#47/#92)
TV: 9pm 2/19, ESPN

Line: Duke -6.5
Pomeroy: Duke 79, NCSU 71 (77% WP)
Injuries: None. Andree (Ankle)

--

History:

Duke is 56-26 against NC State in the Coach K era (1-1 in the Keatts era)

Games in Raleigh with the current coaching staffs:

2018: Duke 85 NCSU 96 - Duke blows a big lead early as they are dominated by State offensively

--

What they're saying:

I'm most curious as to how long our longest scoring drought will be. If it's under 5 minutes I consider that a win.

Going to see KK throw out a series of zone mixes that will befuddle K. This will be considered his greatest coaching performance as he one-ups the HOF coach from Durham.

On a level playing court we still lose by a dozen. This will be anything but a level playing court. I've seen this movie a bazillion times in the last 30 years. Kazooski will have the refs calling every touch foul against State while ignoring Dook's hack and whack defense right out of the gate. Ten minutes into the game, when we've stopped playing defense altogether out of fear of yet another whistle, it will effectively be over. 88-54.

--


Notes:

A game against a bubble State team in Raleigh, with us coming off a big win and them coming off a close loss; what could go wrong?

Factoid: Duke's worst road winning % since the 2009-2010 season comes not against UNC (6-5), UVA (5-1), Maryland (2-2), or Virginia Tech (4-4), but by far comes against State (2-4). In fact they are the only team in the league Duke has a losing road record against.

For once maybe this is a State team that won't destroy us with free throws and threes, as they rarely draw fouls inside and are quite poor from deep, despite taking fewer than the D1 average. So how are they putting out a top 50 offense? It's been fairly even scoring from their starters, both their guards Markell Johnson and Devon Daniels, with the frontcourt tandem of Bryce and Funderback. They don't turn the ball over much and have capitalized inside. Subs Bevery and Hellems have proven capable of coming off the bench and carrying a scoring load as well. Johnson is particularly one of the best set-up PGs in the country, but at 6'1 Tre or Goldwire can hopefully contend with him like we saw with the guards in the Notre Dame game.

Defensively, this is a mediocre State team that to date have sustained themselves with a fairly decent block and steal rate, but on other possessions have been very poor at avoiding fouling as well as grabbing defensive rebounds. We could see Duke potentially score a lot of second chance points as well as get their frontcourt in foul trouble, suffice it that our guards aren't suddenly coughing up the ball a ton. In fact, no team in conference play has committed more fouls per shot attempt, so free throws and hitting them will probably be of high importance.

I don't want to jinx us but on paper I can't help but feel the matchup of styles really favors Duke here, though we all know the history of getting destroyed by State teams in this building that had no business beating us. Duke should obviously want to win as to keep our seeding hopes alive, though a loss doesn't necessarily kill us anymore. But really we don't want to lose our only matchup against a team that is going to get swept by the worst team in the ACC.
 
Last edited:
The only thing worse than UNC or Duke to NC State fans is if Jamie Lucky showed up to call the game
 
  • Like
Reactions: TBC
Duke in Raleigh over the last decade:

-2010: NC State 88 Duke 74 - Duke went on to win the national title
-2011: Duke 92 NC State 78 - Duke lost in the Sweet 16
-2013: NC State 84 Duke 76 - Infamous Wheelchair Dude game, Duke advanced to the Elite 8
-2015: NC State 87 Duke 75 - Duke won the national title
-2016: Duke 88 NC State 78 - Duke fell in the Sweet 16
-2018: NC State 96 Duke 85 - Duke choked in the Elite 8

10 years worth of history tells us, that if we want to see Duke go on a deep tournament run, we need to hope for a loss tonight.
 
So basically if recent history is any indication, we will have to score like 88 points to win this game.
 
I'm thinking we win tonight. Lots of Duke fans are rattled and resigned to defeat, which usually means we're winning.

"When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, " -David Hume

If we lose again in the regular season, I think it would be something ridiculous like Virginia Tech shooting us out of the gym this Saturday or losing the last game to UNC on a 45-point Anthony performance.
 
Mike the Master leading this overachieving Duke squad to exorcise its demons in a house of horrors, while Mike the Billionaire goes into extremely hostile territory to beat back the socialist snowflakes in his first debate. Don't think it gets any better than tonight for America, the world, or Mikes.

Unfortunately, I think I find Bloomberg vs. Bernie to be the more interesting matchup and will probably DVR this Duke loss.
 
Mike the Master leading this overachieving Duke squad to exorcise its demons in a house of horrors, while Mike the Billionaire goes into extremely hostile territory to beat back the socialist snowflakes in his first debate. Don't think it gets any better than tonight for America, the world, or Mikes.

Unfortunately, I think I find Bloomberg vs. Bernie to be the more interesting matchup and will probably DVR this Duke loss.

You can get tickets for this game fairly inexpensively, it's just that those seats in that arena are made for people who are 5'5" and 130 pounds; I'm 6'5" and I cannot sit in any of those seats as my knees are at my ears

**The last time I saw a game there JJ Redick was playing, Duke was ranked #1 in the nation and they lost to State(2004) in Raleigh**, Redick fouled out or they would have won

That was JJ Redick, Sheldon Williams, Luol Deng, Chris Duhon, and Daniel Ewing that couldn't beat State's Marcus Melvin, Julius Hodge, Ilian Evtimov, and Scooter Sherril - COACHED by Herb Sendek!
 
Great write up, @DurhamSon . This is not our only match up against State, though. We play them in Cameron on March 2nd.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TBC
Duke in Raleigh over the last decade:

-2010: NC State 88 Duke 74 - Duke went on to win the national title
-2011: Duke 92 NC State 78 - Duke lost in the Sweet 16
-2013: NC State 84 Duke 76 - Infamous Wheelchair Dude game, Duke advanced to the Elite 8
-2015: NC State 87 Duke 75 - Duke won the national title
-2016: Duke 88 NC State 78 - Duke fell in the Sweet 16
-2018: NC State 96 Duke 85 - Duke choked in the Elite 8

10 years worth of history tells us, that if we want to see Duke go on a deep tournament run, we need to hope for a loss tonight.
Lol at giving up 88.75 ppg in our 4 losses.
 

Chat users

  • No one is chatting at the moment.

Chat rooms

  • General chit-chat 0

Forum statistics

Threads
1,068
Messages
425,232
Members
624
Latest member
Bluegrass Blue Devil
Back
Top Bottom