I mean, I understand why you enjoyed the 2010 win. No doubt. I just think it gets way overblown (the gap in the score, etc...) If you guys have a season where your team completely tanks (won't happen under K), the players go rogue, your best player gets hurt, you have a cancer running point... its just not going to be that important of a win for me.
I cherish the wins over great teams. the 102-100 win in 95 isn't even that remarkable to me other than the fact that you guys battled so hard. we should have beaten that team by 20, easily.
the 2010 team was every bit as embarrassing as the 2002 (8-20, people swear that this actually happened so I will believe them i guess) team, imo.
this season is actually much more frustrating than 2010. we have talent. we have good kids that work hard. we don't have locker room cancers. the guys are getting stoned 5 days a week. we could be a top 20 team. its all on Roy and his absurd bullheadedness.
he claims his starting 5 is his "best five'. that's ridiculous and so much shit its hard to stomach. if he believes it, why does hubert play 4-5 minutes a half? why is he pretending that Reggie is a 3 when he played the 2 all last year? his take that PJ can't get minutes at the expense of anyone but Reggie? C'mon. he wants to be the martyr but he's the perp. these rotations suck and his starting lineup is indefensibly bad. but now that he's been called out on it repeatedly... no shot it will change. if he changes it and it works, he's an idiot. not gonna happen. if he changes it and it doesn't work, he gets to rub it in fans faces. if he doesn't change, we're fucked. imo, this season is over. until i see him go to a lineup that includes PJ, Bullock, and McAdoo for nearly 30 mins of on court time TOGETHER every game, i think we are toast. not that those 3 are amazing, but they are far and away our best 3 and to refuse to give them court time together is the same as refusing to win or try your best. its fucking foolishness. he has me pissed off. this is probably the wrong thread, but i made a tie in to 95 so i hope it flies. :)
also, i think krs had to be kidding earlier re: King Rice. he made Bobby Hurley cry on the court and it was awesome. He also dominated hurley in Cameron to the tune of a 91-71 victory that i got to watch from the 1st row behind the crazies. it was glorious.
I cherish the wins over great teams. the 102-100 win in 95 isn't even that remarkable to me other than the fact that you guys battled so hard. we should have beaten that team by 20, easily.
the 2010 team was every bit as embarrassing as the 2002 (8-20, people swear that this actually happened so I will believe them i guess) team, imo.
this season is actually much more frustrating than 2010. we have talent. we have good kids that work hard. we don't have locker room cancers. the guys are getting stoned 5 days a week. we could be a top 20 team. its all on Roy and his absurd bullheadedness.
he claims his starting 5 is his "best five'. that's ridiculous and so much shit its hard to stomach. if he believes it, why does hubert play 4-5 minutes a half? why is he pretending that Reggie is a 3 when he played the 2 all last year? his take that PJ can't get minutes at the expense of anyone but Reggie? C'mon. he wants to be the martyr but he's the perp. these rotations suck and his starting lineup is indefensibly bad. but now that he's been called out on it repeatedly... no shot it will change. if he changes it and it works, he's an idiot. not gonna happen. if he changes it and it doesn't work, he gets to rub it in fans faces. if he doesn't change, we're fucked. imo, this season is over. until i see him go to a lineup that includes PJ, Bullock, and McAdoo for nearly 30 mins of on court time TOGETHER every game, i think we are toast. not that those 3 are amazing, but they are far and away our best 3 and to refuse to give them court time together is the same as refusing to win or try your best. its fucking foolishness. he has me pissed off. this is probably the wrong thread, but i made a tie in to 95 so i hope it flies. :)
also, i think krs had to be kidding earlier re: King Rice. he made Bobby Hurley cry on the court and it was awesome. He also dominated hurley in Cameron to the tune of a 91-71 victory that i got to watch from the 1st row behind the crazies. it was glorious.
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That's the same impression I have.rome8180 said:
Where did this "good ole gosh country boy" thing come from?
I first head him on ESPNEWS on a telephone coversation between a ESPN anchor and him. He sounded like a well-prepared marketing analyst (which actually makes sense if you look into his business background).
rhfarmer said:
yup, great performance. also provided one of the best sports pictures i've ever seen:
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Fitting, then, that Bullock’s fondest UNC-Duke memory begins with Stackhouse soaring through the air and ends with him having just completed one of the most memorable dunks in the history of the rivalry. Stackhouse’s dunk against Duke in 1995 in Cameron Indoor Stadium has become a part of Duke-UNC lore
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Bullock almost 4 years old. His favorite memory is a replay.
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Bullock almost 4 years old. His favorite memory is a replay.
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tankbaby2 said:
Why would I be kidding? Their battles were epic. Through their obvious disdain for one another, they pretty much personified the Duke/UNC rivalry.
As you mentioned, Rice had his way with Hurley on multiple occasions, but Hurley had his moments as well. FR/SO Hurley was 2-3 against JR/SR Rice. And honestly, from a statistical standpoint, I do not care one way or the other. This thread is about 'rivalry perspective'...from my perspective, the numbers are subordinate to the memories. I'll never forget those two.
Duke's Dan Meagher and UVA's Tom Sheehey are the only other players I can recall who demonstrated the mutual hatred that Hurly and Rice did.
Definitely no kidding on my part.
krsmith16 said:
gotcha - i fully agree. i just thought you were thinking hurley came out on top all the time (which would make sense, he's an all time great and king rice is... king rice). i remember it the same as you. loved those days. man, in 89 it was WAR.
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Over at DBR, Feinstein has a nice article on the rivalry. Devotes a couple of paragraphs to Coach K's decision to pressure Rice (who everyone knew couldn't shoot) and how it almost always back-fired.
K should've been the one crying...not Hurley!
K should've been the one crying...not Hurley!
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Ugh... said 'Feinstein'. Meant to say Featherston.
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/articles/?p=46508
Al, if you're reading...I am SO fucking sorry. Please don't hate me.
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Al, if you're reading...I am SO fucking sorry. Please don't hate me.
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My first Duke Unc game...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg30N_Zx ... EovfGtmHDk
the youtube embed wasn't working but this is worth a click.
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the youtube embed wasn't working but this is worth a click.
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Rollins said:
I love the Maryland game that pops up in the player immediately after that. As unimportant as that game ultimately was, the second play there is one of my favorite moments in Duke history. Has everything you could want out a basketball play. Singler steal and save, crosscourt pass to Scheyer, touch pass to Nolan, another touch pass back to the trailing Henderson, then Henderson's amazing smile after that. He said it was the best play he'd ever been involved in at Duke.
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