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[TS9]

@rome8180 Oh, totally. The day I finally figured out what the hell automation was and how to use it somewhat correctly was a game changer. Now I can't imagine not using it.

That said, I generally only use it for volume. You can automate pretty much any process or effect, but I haven't ventured into those areas yet.

 

[rome8180]

It's mostly volume for me. I occasionally use it for panning. And once in a blue moon I'll automate an EQ move if there's one small section where the EQ I applied to the track isn't working.

 

[rhfarmer]

So I listened to Boston's debut album all the way through this morning while I worked. I remembered another tidbit that was really funny. The song "Rock and Roll Band" was written to create a fictional back story about the "early days" of them playing in bars and sleeping in their cars. Pretty fucking funny.

Also, this song has one of my favorite guitar solos of all time:

 

[rhfarmer]

Just saw that in "What Makes This Song Great" Beato does Hitch A Ride as well.

 

[rome8180]

Foo Fighters have made some really bad music, but they've also made some of the greatest rock songs ever. The composition and structure of this are just perfect.

 

[torontoduke]

It's almost 5 pm on a Saturday, time to start thinking about what you'll do at the bars tonight:

 

[rome8180]

Super cool. The most recognizable opening chord in music history, and yet for decades people have been arguing about what it is. I think the best thing to call it is a D minor 7/11, but that's a semantic argument.

 

[Duke Mu]

Super cool. The most recognizable opening chord in music history, and yet for decades people have been arguing about what it is. I think the best thing to call it is a D minor 7/11, but that's a semantic argument.

Pretty cool. Here's another take.

When George was asked what chord he played on the opening of Hard Day's Night he replied an Fadd9 on the 12 string guitar, and "you'd have to ask Paul about the bass." Paul said he played a D. John allegedly played Fadd9 on acoustic guitar per the Fourier analysis article.

George Martin played D2, G2, D3, G3 and C4 on the piano

The Fadd9 is a jazz chord major with usually an added 9th or 2nd for dissonance. Very similar the the "mu" chord found on many Steely Dan records: Razor Boy, Rikki Don't Lose that Number, Doctor Wu, Black Cow, Deacon Blues, etc.

So, Dm7add11

A Hard Day's Night Chord

A reasoned discussion of the opening chord of The Beatle's song A Hard Day's Night considering the wealth of empirical evidence and verifying assumptions with Fourier Transform analysis.

sites.google.com

The ‘A Hard Day’s Night’ opening chord

Recorded: 16 April 1964 Producer: George Martin Engineer: Norman Smith Released: 10 July 1964 (UK), 26 June 1964 (US) George Harrison: Rickenbacker 360/12 guitar John Lennon: Gibson J-160 6-string acoustic guitar Paul McCartney: Hofner violin bass Ringo Starr: snare drum, cymbal George Martin...

www.beatlesbible.com

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Steely Dan - The Mu Major Chord

An explanation of the Steely Dan mu major chord: what the chord is, what it sounds like, how it is built and used, examples of the mu major chord in Steely Dan songs.

www.hakwright.co.uk

Steely Dan - The Mu Major Chord - Part 2

An explanation of the Steely Dan mu major chord: what the chord is, how it is built and used, examples of the mu major chord in Steely Dan songs...

www.hakwright.co.uk

Steely Dan - The Mu Major Chord - Part 3

An explanation of the Steely Dan mu major chord: what the chord is, how it is built and used, examples of the mu major chord in Steely Dan songs ...

www.hakwright.co.uk

 

[aiw]

What a cover

 

[rome8180]

Super cool. The most recognizable opening chord in music history, and yet for decades people have been arguing about what it is. I think the best thing to call it is a D minor 7/11, but that's a semantic argument.

Pretty cool. Here's another take.

When George was asked what chord he played on the opening of Hard Day's Night he replied an Fadd9 on the 12 string guitar, and "you'd have to ask Paul about the bass." Paul said he played a D. John allegedly played Fadd9 on acoustic guitar per the Fourier analysis article.

George Martin played D2, G2, D3, G3 and C4 on the piano

The Fadd9 is a jazz chord major with usually an added 9th or 2nd for dissonance. Very similar the the "mu" chord found on many Steely Dan records: Razor Boy, Rikki Don't Lose that Number, Doctor Wu, Black Cow, Deacon Blues, etc.

So, Dm7add11

A Hard Day's Night Chord

A reasoned discussion of the opening chord of The Beatle's song A Hard Day's Night considering the wealth of empirical evidence and verifying assumptions with Fourier Transform analysis.

sites.google.com

The ‘A Hard Day’s Night’ opening chord

Recorded: 16 April 1964 Producer: George Martin Engineer: Norman Smith Released: 10 July 1964 (UK), 26 June 1964 (US) George Harrison: Rickenbacker 360/12 guitar John Lennon: Gibson J-160 6-string acoustic guitar Paul McCartney: Hofner violin bass Ringo Starr: snare drum, cymbal George Martin...

www.beatlesbible.com

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Steely Dan - The Mu Major Chord

An explanation of the Steely Dan mu major chord: what the chord is, what it sounds like, how it is built and used, examples of the mu major chord in Steely Dan songs.

www.hakwright.co.uk

Steely Dan - The Mu Major Chord - Part 2

An explanation of the Steely Dan mu major chord: what the chord is, how it is built and used, examples of the mu major chord in Steely Dan songs...

www.hakwright.co.uk

Steely Dan - The Mu Major Chord - Part 3

An explanation of the Steely Dan mu major chord: what the chord is, how it is built and used, examples of the mu major chord in Steely Dan songs ...

www.hakwright.co.uk

You could call it an F add 9 over D, or even an F 6/9 over D. But since the D is in the bass, I think it makes more sense to call it a D7/11. At any rate, the notes are D, F, G, A, and C (only spread across multiple octaves).

 

[torontoduke]

What a cover

Not sure if you're making fun or not, but their 'Cut' record is quite good. They and this other band called the Pop Group made some out there music in late 70s, a fusion of all kinds of genres

 

[aiw]

I am not making fun. I think it's great.

 

[rhfarmer]

@rome8180 I've been giving a lot of thought to your post about Sting, where you mention that his later solo stuff isn't as widely accepted as his earlier catalog.

I have lots of drive time for work, so I listened to 10 Summoner's Tales and Nothing Like the Sun, which is 2 or 3 albums prior to Summoner's, I believe. I also listened to a lot of Police, random songs on Tidal.

The biggest takeaways I have from Sting's solo career are more about what he didn't achieve than what he did achieve.

When Police split up, they were arguably the biggest rock band in the world. They had made 5 great albums and had almost invented their own form of music, certainly a style of music.

Sting left that to emulate jazz music. It's still weird to me to type it that way. He started as a Police jazz cover band. He has certainly made some stunning and beautiful music as a solo artist. But I feel like the majority of his solo catalog is Sting emulating smooth jazz or Delta blues, and he's just pretty good at it.

I liken his solo career to fitting in somewhere between Simply Red and Steely Dan. He's certainly not as cheesy and schmaltzy as Simply Red, but he's also not as clever and brilliant as Steely Dan. So, he's just kind of pretty good, and his later solo stuff is somewhat forgotten because it's somewhat forgettable.

 

[rhfarmer]

I would like to add that 12 year old me had a Police poster on the wall and I bought Dream of the Blue Turtles, the live Sting CD when it came out, etc, etc. I was a humongous Police/Sting fan boy and still am quite frankly.

I think part of the Sting hate is that he comes off as a dick and holier than thou and there is probably some commercial and critical backlash from that.

 

[rome8180]

His stuff is definitely cheesy, but some of it is far more complex than anything The Police ever did. And even some of the cheesy stuff -- like "Fields of Gold" or "Shape of My Heart" -- I actually like as much as any Police song. And I'm probably more likely to listen to those particular tracks than all but a couple Steely Dan tracks. But if I do want something a little denser and more challenging, I can listen to "I Burn for You" or "Fortress Around Your Heart."

My point with his solo career wasn't that it was better than The Police -- I don't think it was -- but that it probably had more variety in song types.

 

[rome8180]

For a Police fan, I think Dream of the Blue Turtles is probably the best Sting album to listen to. He was a little more reggae-inspired on that one and less new age-y. I think it's sort of like Paul McCartney -- how his first couple albums had more in common with his Beatles career than later stuff.

 

[rhfarmer]

His stuff is definitely cheesy, but some of it is far more complex than anything The Police ever did. And even some of the cheesy stuff -- like "Fields of Gold" or "Shape of My Heart" -- I actually like as much as any Police song. And I'm probably more likely to listen to those particular tracks than all but a couple Steely Dan tracks. But if I do want something a little denser and more challenging, I can listen to "I Burn for You" or "Fortress Around Your Heart."

My point with his solo career wasn't that it was better than The Police -- I don't think it was -- but that it probably had more variety in song types.

It's unquestionably a broader musical palate than the Police were. However, you can see some nascent diversity in Ghost In the Machine and Synchronicity.

I can see where Sting might have felt hamstrung by a 3 piece outfit.

 

[aiw]

 

[aiw]

Why the Baby on Nirvana’s ‘Nevermind’ Album Is Suing Now

Spencer Elden, 30, says Nirvana engaged in child pornography when the band used a picture of him naked on the cover of the breakthrough album.

www.nytimes.com

Follow up:

He approached Nirvana recently and asked them to be part of his art show and he got the run around. Now, lawsuit.

I hope he owes so much in court fees.

 

[rome8180]

Didn't his parents have to give permission for the use of the image? And of course, it's clearly not pornography. Seems like this will be quickly dismissed. Or maybe Nirvana will just pay him $10,000 out of court. Chump change to them and gets him to shut up.