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Player Jahlil Okafor

Okafor's PPG has dropped below Kaminsky's too, due to the last two games. Need Okafor to score 40 against UNC now to have a chance.
 
DurhamSon said:
During Wednesday's Spreecast, our own Joe Lunardi admitted, all things equal, he would go with a senior candidate over a freshman. Don't underestimate the number of voters who will agree


What the fuck. Fucking dinosaur media

I'm OK with this. It will be the last basketball related accolade he'll ever receive.
 
I hate to play the race card, but the media loves white guys who stay in college.
 
Why would anyone vote for Okafor over Kaminsky? It's annoying that they don't just put the stats out there to back it up, rather than using dumb narratives, but there really should be no way Okafor gets anything over Kaminsky based on actual good thinking.
 
SeanMayTriedToEatMe said:
Why would anyone vote for Okafor over Kaminsky? It's annoying that they don't just put the stats out there to back it up, rather than using dumb narratives, but there really should be no way Okafor gets anything over Kaminsky based on actual good thinking.


I'd be fine if that were their argument, but we all know it's more of a gut "i like 4 year white players all things equal over one and dones" feeling
 
Just eyeing offensive win shares (since defense doesn't matter to voters) and, to a lesser extent, overall win shares, I'm seeing these guys as 1st Team All-America worthy:

G Delon Wright, SR, Utah (#13 offensive, #3 overall)
G Jerian Grant, SR, Notre Dame (#1 offensive, #7 overall)
F Kyle Wiltjer, JR, Gonzaga (#7 offensive, #10 overall)
F Seth Tuttle, SR, Northern Iowa (#9 offensive, #6 overall)
C Frank Kaminsky, SR, Wisconsin (#3 offensive, #1 overall) - National Player of the Year

Maybe:
G D'Angelo Russell, FR, Ohio State (#12 offensive, #5 overall)

Sophomore 6-3 guard Gary "The Mitten" Payton is by far the most valuable defensive player in the nation, by the way. Shocking.

Guys I left out from the top of the win shares lists are mainly players on little known schools playing against bad competition. I'd put Russell on there over Tuttle if people have a problem with Northern Iowa's competition. Okafor isn't even on the radar.
 
What will actually happen (reasoning in parentheses):

Frank Kaminsky (18.1 ppg, senior, white, Wisconsin is good)
Jahlil Okafor (17.8 ppg, Duke is good, will be #1 pick in NBA draft)
D'Angelo Russell (19.3 ppg, I have heard of Ohio State)
Jerian Grant (16.7 ppg, 6.6 apg, senior, Notre Dame didn't lose many games)
Marcus Paige (made 1st Team in preseason, commentators say he's good)
 
You can't defend Okafor using numbers. You have to defend him by saying "if he were guarded like other teams guard Kaminsky, his numbers would be insane" which I believe is true, but hypotheticals shouldn't win the award.
 
I like Delon Wright a lot. He is nails tough.

SeanMayTriedToEatMe said:
Just eyeing offensive win shares (since defense doesn't matter to voters) and, to a lesser extent, overall win shares, I'm seeing these guys as 1st Team All-America worthy:

G Delon Wright, SR, Utah (#13 offensive, #3 overall)
G Jerian Grant, SR, Notre Dame (#1 offensive, #7 overall)
F Kyle Wiltjer, JR, Gonzaga (#7 offensive, #10 overall)
F Seth Tuttle, SR, Northern Iowa (#9 offensive, #6 overall)
C Frank Kaminsky, SR, Wisconsin (#3 offensive, #1 overall) - National Player of the Year

Maybe:
G D'Angelo Russell, FR, Ohio State (#12 offensive, #5 overall)

Sophomore 6-3 guard Gary "The Mitten" Payton is by far the most valuable defensive player in the nation, by the way. Shocking.

Guys I left out from the top of the win shares lists are mainly players on little known schools playing against bad competition. I'd put Russell on there over Tuttle if people have a problem with Northern Iowa's competition. Okafor isn't even on the radar.
 
Anyone else find this kind of hard to watch? The voice of the guy talking was horrible.

 
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If he can stay out of foul trouble tonight, he should have a nice game (scoring-wise) against UNC. Other than trying to avoid picking up fouls, there is no reason he cannot do a better job defensively against Meeks, James, Hicks etc. around the rim
 
I hated that video. Stupid concept poorly executed. Also one of the least interesting things you can show a 6'11" post player with incredible footwork and touch do is dunk the basketball.
 
K sandbagged the first 27 games to get him locked in to 1st team all american and the #1 pick, so he could cut his role when it matters (and won't affect recruiting). Brilliant.
 
Why the fuck was he out there up 5 with 45 seconds to go, Duke on offense? Gets the inbound and misses the front end. I'm sure this was discussed in game chat but that was inexcusable.

Duke's expected ppp with Okafor getting fouled in the single bonus is .67 assuming Okafor is a 50% FT shooter. And lately he's more like a 25% shooter.
 
Okafor is going to be shooting big late game FTs at some point in the tournament, and you can't practice for that situation unless you are put in the situation.
 
Free throws are free throws. Doesn't matter when you shoot them. There is nothing fundamentally different about shooting free throws "in the clutch" and there's no evidence that "clutchness" is even a real thing. If Jah wants to be able to make free throws in crunch-time, he needs to practice shooting free throws.
 

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